He [Jim Ede] was always looking out for bits and pieces and brought various things back to the cottages and he was always, of course, fascinated by it himself and thrilled to show you and so he made the whole thing very exciting and it was then that I realised that, as he almost once put it to me, that having tried to be an artist for a bit, he realised he wasn’t really a painter and he then began to be so fascinated by painting, sculpture, everything that he worked on, the whole history of it and on the objects and discovering the kind of people whom he felt were doing it right and through doing that, he gradually came through, I think, he didn’t really explain this very much but I think it’s true, to see that he could make as his work of art a house that was so ordered and furnished and painted and he’d already done this, begun to do this, in other places, in North Africa for instance, so he’d been moving in this direction but a place, that in a place of education like Cambridge and that’s why it appealed to him, people could come into and catch a vision and the vision itself was deepening and sharpening as he was making it.